Eerie Descent
11:11 Mon Dec 9
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Of course he won't fight Wilder or Fury any time soon, he'll fight Pulev next, then I reckon they'll make the Miller fight to get in a load more dough before taking any risks.
I don't blame them at all, to be honest.
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dealcanvey
11:07 Mon Dec 9
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Boring fight. Joshua played it well and done what he had to do. Dont think he held centre of the ring or got on the front foot in a single round.
Think the more Joshua fights the more doubters he gets.
Couple of times when Ruiz got inside he troubled him.
Just dont see him being able to beat Fury or Wilder. One shot from the later and he goes down in my opinion.
As for exciting match ups I dont see him going anywhere near Fury or Wilder next year.
Why risk it when you can earn 60 plus million fighting someone of Ruiz standard?
It is the fight that fans want to see but surely people realise now that both Joshua and Hearn will milk the cow for as long as possible.
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stewie griffin
10:54 Mon Dec 9
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The 90s is the most bizarrely overly romanticized era of heavyweight boxing. Can only assume its because it was the dawn of pay per view and massive hype
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Stubbo
10:30 Mon Dec 9
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I actually think Ruiz played this right. If he'd grafted hard and still lost, he'd now just be the ex-champ who beat someone as a late fill in on their off day (and have missed out on cashing in on the fame and celebrity of having won).
Now he's the legitimate former world champ who let his party lifestyle get to him, and questions remain as to "what if he'd trained hard" which ultimately will keep his name in the frame and earn him another shot not too far down the line.
Having the overweight excuse will work perfectly for him and means he quite literally got to have his cake and eat it!
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Iron Duke
10:19 Mon Dec 9
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Joshua did exactly what he needed to do to win the fight, and what he should have done in the first fight. He made it a boxing contest and not a scrap.
Who cares whether the heavyweight boxers of 2019 are as good as those in the 70's or 90's? It makes for exciting match-ups. We just need them to stop fannying around and to actually fight each other.
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jfk
4:16 Mon Dec 9
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TheBoleynBoy 2:06 Mon Dec 9
"Lad" city centre rucks? Ain't a bit of me.If you think Joshua is the next big thing who's anything out of the ordinary so be it.
You and I won't ever agree.
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jfk
3:01 Mon Dec 9
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Yogiib
I've no idea what your point is.
I work tirelessly and am responsible for 6 to live a comfortable life
I will never earn 3 million in my lifetime some of the risks I take are frightening,most fortunately pay off.
AJ was paid 60 odd million for showboating.
A very luck bloke I'd say.
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TheBoleynBoy
2:35 Mon Dec 9
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JFK
Yeah cause AJ has never defended his world titles in the past has he.
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jfk
2:35 Mon Dec 9
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southbankbornnbred 2:17 Mon Dec 9
Had Ruiz defended his world title committed and put the endless hours in as Joshua undoubtedly has he'd still be world champion.
The fella's a natural.
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yogib
2:26 Mon Dec 9
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I wonder how many people here calling Joshua "Bang Average" are truly outstanding in whatever you do to earn a crust and would go an extra mile to be outstanding for the same money as just doing your job and supposedly being average!
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jfk
2:21 Mon Dec 9
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Everyone's entitled to their opinions,we'll see soon enough who's right when AJ defends his world title.
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southbankbornnbred
2:17 Mon Dec 9
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Nobody has ever knocked Ruiz 'senseless in two'. It has just never happened. What planet are you on?
Ruiz has lost two fights in his professional career - both on points - against Parker and now Joshua.
You seem to want to re-write history. You may not like how he looks (who does?), and you may not rate him, but only two people have ever beaten Ruiz professionally and doing so is clearly not as easy as you seem to think. If it were, you think his record would be a lot worse. It's self-evident, mate.
This is a poor heavyweight division by historical standards. But, regardless, these guys are the cream of the current crop. Beating any one of Wilder, Fury, Joshua and Ruiz is not easy for anybody currently lacing up gloves.
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Mr Anon
2:11 Mon Dec 9
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Hilarious analogies on here, by definition he is not bang average, he's currently the best in the world. Bang average in the history of boxing maybe.
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TheBoleynBoy
2:06 Mon Dec 9
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You’re probably gobsmacked cause you don’t understand boxing lad. Stick to watching rucks on a Saturday night in a city centre.
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jfk
1:30 Mon Dec 9
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I stand by my words,Joshua is "bang average" admittedly now is not a good time for heavyweights.
My view on last nights fiasco is Joshua bottled it against "fatty" that on the limited chances when got to land a punch he had AJ clearly in trouble.
Joshua had a point to prove after getting beat easily previously against supposedly piss poor opposition.
He should have knocked Ruiz senseless in two.He didn't though he fucked about prancing around avoiding a ruck.
I'm completely gobsmacked by the hype.
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HairyHammer
1:26 Mon Dec 9
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If Ruiz actually takes the boxing game seriously instead of a fucking party time and eating challenge which is obviously how he has treated it since he won, in my opinion he has the ability to be a world champion again, the man has a very big selection of punches his counter punching is phenomenal and fast too, but he cannot be above 18 stones he has to lose two stones and get fit .
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Briano
12:58 Mon Dec 9
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Ali, Frazier Foreman, Klitschco Lewis, Joshua, Usyk all Olympic Gold Medallists
Tyrell Biggs is the only one I can think of that was bang average
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Lee Trundle
12:55 Mon Dec 9
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An Olympic gold medalist and 2 time champion of the world is bang fucking average and lucky?
Interesting theory...
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White Pony
12:54 Mon Dec 9
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Joke of a sport.
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Eerie Descent
12:45 Mon Dec 9
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I personally wouldn't call him bang average in today's standards, but the geezer raked in £66mil for that last night. It was a pretty bang average performance, yet you get his fanclub talking of 'dancing around the ring'.
I mean, fucking hell. He did what he had to do against the Pillsbury Doughboy, but if that is a MASTERCLASS, as is getting pumped out by the PR machine, then I've been watching another sport.
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southbankbornnbred
12:38 Mon Dec 9
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He's self-evidently not 'bang fucking average', though, is he?
He might be a poor or average world champion by historical standards - and I would not necessarily disagree with that at all. But he's clearly not 'average' among this generation of heavyweights. If that were the case, he would not have won the world titles twice.
He might be bang average by the standards of the 1970s or 1990s. But he's top four or five by the standards of 2019, whether people like that or not.
And, however you measure it, being in the top four or five heavyweights right now means he is not 'average' by today's standards.
I don't see anybody saying that a top five tennis player, or football club, is 'bang fucking average'. By definition, they have to be a little bit more than that.
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